Hebrew Voices #118 – Trinity and the Christian God

In this episode of Hebrew Voices, Trinity and the Christian God, Nehemia Gordon hosts a conversation between Southern Baptist Brian Garcia and Christian unitarian Carlos Xavier, to get a better understanding of the Christian concept of the nature of God.

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Guests' Websites:
Focus on the Kingdom (Carlos Xavier)
Real Truth Ministry (Brian Garcia)

Books Mentioned:
The Orthodox Corruption of Scripture: The Effect of Early Christological Controversies on the Text of the New Testament by Bart D. Ehrman
Jesus As God: The New Testament Use of Theos in Reference to Jesus by Murray Harris

Verses Mentioned:
Deuteronomy 6:4
Genesis 1:2
Genesis 1:26-27
Isaiah 9:6-7
Micah 5:2
John 1:1
Jeremiah 23:5-6
Zechariah 11:12-13
Zechariah 12:10
Zechariah 14:3-9
John 17:3
Job 33:4
Ezekiel 3:12-14
Ezekiel 3:24
Genesis 11:7
Genesis 19:24
1 Kings 8:1
1 Samuel 25:22
Genesis 18:1
John 20:17-29
Exodus 4:16
Exodus 7:1
John 10:34-35
Psalm 82
Romans 9:5
Mark 13:32
John 1:18
Matthew 1:18
John 14:5-9
Isaiah 6:3
John 12:41
Hebrews 1:3
Exodus 4:16
Exodus 7:1
Hebrews 1:8
Psalm 45
Matthew 28:19
Romans 10:9-13
Joel 2:32
Hebrews 3:7-19
Psalm 102
Isaiah 44:24
Job 33:4
Revelation 4:11
1 Timothy 2:4
Psalm 22
John 5:7
Matthew 1:18
Matthew 1:20
Luke 1:30-35
Matthew 1:18
Matthew 1:1
Matthew 24:35
Matthew 5:18
Isaiah 40:8
Isaiah 42:8
John 17:5
Ephesians 1:4
John 1:14
Daniel 7
Philippians 2:6-8
John 16:30
Hebrews 4:15
Dt 28:48
Judith 1:3-8
Isaiah 45:14
Jeremiah 23:5-6
Revelation 5:12-14

  • Andries says:

    I just want to add one think, it is interesting how Baptists must always dumb on the Mormons. I think Brian is one of those exJehova’s like the exMormons that have too much hate in their hearts

  • Andries says:

    I would like to disagree with both of them.

    The Trinity is a false teaching but has merit only with one condition.

    If Jesus says he is God then we must read that Yehovah and Yeshua has all the same attributes thus Yehovah of Old Testament Bible and Yeshua of New Testament is one being. But then the Godhead is also true that God the Father and Jesus are both Members of the Godhead and then the Holy Spirit is the mind or consciousness (vail) of God.

    Lectures on Faith by the Prophet Joseph Smith jr gives a great explanation.

    So Godhead is God the Father (Un named God) the Son (Yeshua) with the Holy Spirit being the mind of God

    The trinity can only work if it is related to Yehovah being the pre-mortal Yeshua.

    Yehovah is the Father because he created us, Yehovah as Yeshua or Yehoshua is the Son because of the flesh and He is the Holy Spirit because he was transformed into a Spirit after his resurrection.

    But they are all one being, I am a Father to my children, a Son to my parents and a Husband to my wife, that is Trinity.

    But Trinity is not God the Father and Yehovah (Yeshua) that is the 2 personages of the Godhead.

    Nehemia I think it would be amazing if you can do such a program with someone from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and the Reformed Church of Christ.

    I believe that Yehovah of the Old Testament is the Creator and that Yehovah is the Son of the Almighty.