In this episode of Prophet Pearls, Nehemia Gordon and Keith Johnson discuss the Prophets portion for Balak covering Micah 5:6-6:8. The portion begins with Micah drawing from the song of Moses to illustrate what the remnant of Jacob will look likeโโas showers upon grass.โ The prophet also provides a list of things that will be cut off โin that day.โ And lest we think biblical idolatry is obsolete, Gordon and Johnson provide modern day examples that masquerade as piety. We learn the uses of the paragraph divisions of โsamechโ and โpeiโ and Gordon scours the Tanakh for other uses of โin that day.โ
In closing, Gordon and Johnson share their individual histories and perspectives with the closing verses that inform us โwhat the Lord requires.โ In Micahโs context of blood, rams and oil, the good list sounds simple and can be stated on one footโbut even so requires the intention of a whole life.
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"He has shown you, O man, what is good; And what does Yehovah require of you But to do justly, To love mercy, And to walk humbly with your God?" Micah 6:8
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Keith: Welcome to Prophet Pearls. This is Keith Johnson and Nehemia Gordon down into the deep dark breaches of a basement in the side of a mountain in the land of Jerusalem. We are here actually recording at breakneck speed, but really having an amazing time, not only having our nose in the Scriptures but actually walking amongst the people in the land. It really is becoming amazing. Weโre trying to do our best to let you know about prophecy for yesterday, today, and tomorrow, and thatโs exactly what weโre about to do in this section in the Book of Micah. Nehemia, welcome back again!
Nehemia: Shalom, Keith. I love this book, the Book of Micah. I canโt wait to talk about this.
Keith: Youโre talking about the Book of Micah, so I have to tell you something. We talked earlier about Isaiah, and how I see him, and Jeremiah, and Ezekiel, and even Amos, but I have to tell you I donโt have an image for Micah. Can you help me? Can you tell me something about this prophet?
Nehemia: So heโs actually mentioned by Jeremiah, if Iโm not mistaken. Letโs see, Jeremiah Chapter 26 verse 18. It saysโฆ here let me read you in the JPS. Jeremiah is talking about the different prophets, and it says, โMicah the Morashtite, who prophesied in the days of Hezekiah of Judah, said to all the people of Judah, โThus said Yehovah of Hosts, Zion shall be plowed as a field, Jerusalem shall become a heap of ruins and the Temple Mount a shrine in the woods.โโ That was his famous prophecy.
And what theyโre talking about there is if you have a negative prophecy, does that mean that youโre a traitor against the government? Because thatโs what they were accusing Jeremiah of. They said, โWell, wait a minute, why is Jeremiah against the kingdom of Judah for prophesying that weโre going to be punished – Micah the Morashtite did that.โ So thatโs him, heโs a coolโฆ itโs interesting, I donโt know that we have many other examples of one prophet who mentions another prophet in parallel. We actually have Daniel mentioning Jeremiah, but Danielโs not in the Prophets in the Tanakh, Danielโs in the Writings. So thatโs interesting.
Keith: Yes. Well, the verse that we start out with is verse 7, Micah 5.
Nehemia: By the way, that quote is from Micah Chapter 3 verse 12 in Jeremiah. Isnโt that interesting?
Keith: Wow.
Nehemia: Heโs quoting a prophecy of Micah, and we have the original in Micah Chapter 3 verse 12. Thatโs cool.
Keith: Wow. Wow.
Nehemia: But here weโre in Micah 5.
Keith: Yes. And actually, I have to tell something, in English it starts out with a word that Iโve used a lot. I really love this word. I honestly have to tell you, this English word gives me an image that really just makes me think a lot about not only what the future, in terms of the remnant, I use the word the remnant, but so many people that I meet, that I feel like when I meet them, Iโm like, โBoy, they just look like, smell like, feel like, act like the remnant.โ
And it says here, โThen the remnant of Yaakov, the remnant of Jacob, will be among many peoples.โ And then it gives the image that there will be among many peoples, โLike dew from Yehovah, like showers on vegetation which do not wait for man or delay for the sons of men. The remnant of Jacob will be among the nations,โ it says it again, โamong many peoples,โ there it is, โlike a lion among the beasts of the forest, like a young lion among flocks of sheep, which, if he passes through, tramples down and tears, and there is none to rescue.โ So heโs giving images of what it looks – like this remnant of people.
Now, go ahead and make that statement.
Nehemia: Well, read verse 8 now. Letโs finish the prophecy.
Keith: Yes. Okay. And then, well, letโs see. No, I actually just did verse 8 in English. You want me to do inโฆ?
Nehemia: No, no. And thereโs none to… Oh, Iโm sorry. So itโs verse 9 in the Hebrew. In Hebrew, itโs verse 8. Iโm looking at the Hebrew.
Keith: Okay. โYour hand will be lifted up against your adversaries, and all your enemies will be cut off.โ
Nehemia: So thatโs this prophecy that ends in verse 8 in the Hebrew, is that 9 in the English?
Keith: Yes.
Nehemia: Okay. So whatโs this? So first of all, this phrase in verse 6 โkirvivim alei esev,โ like, how do you have that? โLike showers upon the vegetationโ?
Keith: Verse 7 in the English?
Nehemia: Verse 7 in the English, which is verse 6 in the Hebrew. You translate it as, โshowers upon the grass,โ that exact phraseโฆ
Keith: โShowers on vegetation,โ yes.
Nehemia: Yes. That exact phrase in Hebrew, โkirvivim alei esev,โ appears in Deuteronomy 32:2 and in the Song of Moses, and itโs a pretty distinctive phrase. So it clearly is โ Micah is prophesying and he has this image in his head, or this phrase, thatโs being taken from there.
So this is interesting. This is describing Israel. You know, weโve read many times about Israel scattered among the nations, Yehovah will come and kibbutz them back, Heโll gather them back. But I donโt know that weโve read many images like this, where Jacob among the nations is like this lion thatโs going to destroy its enemies. Isnโt it appropriate that weโre reading this around the time of Purim? Where there is an image of Israel among the nations as this victim about to be wiped out, and then venahafochu, it gets turned around.
Keith: Turned around.
Nehemia: Turned upside down. The victim becomes the victor and the persecuted becomes the defender and wipes out the enemy. And thatโs why to this day, Jews, to kind of express that, will dress up in costumes. And I actually asked my niece the other day – she was dressed up as a little princess – and I said, โWell so whyโฆโ and sheโs 9 years old. Iโm sorry sheโs almost 10.
Keith: Yes, you must never say 9.
Nehemia: Right. โAni kimat bat eser.โ So sheโs almost 10 and I asked her, โSo why, Aviv, are you dressed up on Purim? Why Purim. Like, why dress up?โ And she said, โWell, because venahafochu,โ and she quoted the Hebrew, because sheโs a little Israeli girl, which means the โopposite happens.โ And so she said, โWe do the opposite of what we do in daily life, and in daily life, Iโm not a princess, and now Iโm dressed like a princess.โ
But hereโs an image of sort of a Purim situation, which is not a common image in the Tanakh. Israel is a lion among the sheep. That speaks for itself.
Keith: Yes. And he says it twice, โAmong many peoples.โ And here it says, โAmong the nations.โ So now weโre talking about them not necessarily being amongst the people of Israel, but rather being amongst all sorts of different nations, so that like theyโre the ones that are, whatโs that called again when youโre aโฆ whatโs that called? A cell. [laughing]
Nehemia: A cell?
Keith: In other words, theyโre groups of people, and like, I get the image of them being all over the world, not just in one place.
Nehemia: Well, yes, theyโre amongst the nations. And the point here is that heโs saying, โLift up your hand against your enemies and all your enemies will be cut off.โ This is really the image of Purim. And like we have this image weโve talked about before, where Israel is among the nations and theyโll be sifted out. And thatโs something thatโs more familiar to me from the history of Israel. Israel is scattered among the nations and Yehovah is doing this kind of sifting out. Weโve got the Holocaust and weโve got the pogroms and weโve got the inquisitions, and the Jews just keep getting whittled down, whittled down again and again and again. And thatโs a fulfillment of biblical prophecy. But then here, this image of Israel among the nations, and wiping out other nations who come up against us as enemies, thatโs not an image we see a lot of. Thatโs interesting.
Keith: Yes.
Nehemia: And here I have to think this prophecy hasnโt really been fulfilled much in the past. This might be one coming for the future.
Keith: Oh!
Nehemia: This might be for today and tomorrow.
Keith: But you mentioned Purim. I mean, they were…
Nehemia: Thereโs just one example. Yes, okay.
Keith: Yes. Theyโre amongst the nations. It says, โYour hand will be lifted upโฆโ
Nehemia: But here itโs the remnant of Jacob, so I donโt know that that would apply to Purim exactly. Iโm saying thatโs an image of it, but here Iโm thinking – and I could be wrong – that this is an end times prophecy, a future prophecy that hasnโt been fulfilled yet. And we donโt actually see it in history very much, or even at all.
Keith: Can I askโฆ? This is kind of a grammatical question.
Nehemia: Yes.
Keith: But what I like about it in English, it says, โYour hand will be lifted up.โ Now, I thinkโฆ It sends the message thatโฆ it doesnโt say, โYou will lift your hand up.โ You see what Iโm saying? โYour hand will be lifted up,โ but thatโs not grammatically what it looks like is happening here. So my question is, when it says, โYour hand will be lifted up,โ if I read it that way, then that kind of means thereโs sort of a passive thing, โYour hand will be lifted up.โ But what do you see here grammatically, as far as theโฆ?
Nehemia: Yes, in Hebrew itโs not in passive. [laughing] However, it is adjustive, and so the subject could actually adhere. Weโve talked about this before, how you have the four prefixes of Hebrew verbs called the Eitan letters, Alef-Yud-Tav-Nun. And the Tav means โyouโ or โshe.โ And so you could read โtaโarom,โ as, โYou will lift up yadchah, your hand,โ and yadchah, โyour hand,โ is the object. Or taโarom yadchah is โYour hand will lift up.โ And then your hand is the subject.
The point is that tav in taโarom could be โyou will lift up,โ or โshe will lift up.โ In both cases, itโs an active verb. Your hand is the subject of the sentence according to the other one, and thatโs how theyโre interpreting it. But for English style, theyโre switching it to passive. โYour hand, she will lift up against your enemies,โ is literally what it says.
Keith: Awesome.
Nehemia: Or one way of reading it.
Keith: Yes. And actually, itโs interesting – it doesnโt say here โagainst your satansโ.
Nehemia: No, it says โtzaโarecha,โ โyour enemies.โ
Keith: Yes, โYour enemies.โ โAnd all your enemies will be cut off.โ
Nehemia: Yes, another word for enemy, โoyev.โ
Keith: Yes.
Nehemia: Okay.
Keith: Then we get this phrase, Nehemia, that I love when I hear it, and its three little letters, three little words in English, โin that day.โ โIn that day,โ I donโt know how many times it shows up. You could probably tap, tap, tap.
Nehemia: Letโs do that.
Keith: But when we say, โIt will be in that day.โ That phrase kind of makes my antennas raise up, because Iโฆ
Nehemia: Iโve got that exact phrase 34 times in the Tanakh.
Keith: Is that not impressive, folks? Did you see how quick that was? No, that could be a record.
Nehemia: Wait. Hold on a second. Well, no, so there are different forms of it. Thereโs โVayehi bayom hahu,โ โAnd it was on that day.โ But what we want is โVehayah bayom hahu,โ โAnd it will be on that day.โ So for that, I need to do something a little bit different, so itโs going to take me a minute.
Keith: Oh, boy.
Nehemia: So go on while Iโm looking for this.
Keith: Okay. Well, again, the reason Iโm thinking of it is because when I hear that word, โin that day,โ I ask myself, โIs there any other day that weโre not waiting with more expectation?โ
Nehemia: Okay. Thirty-two times where itโs that exact phrase in the Hebrew, โVehayah bayom hahu,โ โAnd it shall come to pass on that day,โ or literally, โit will be on that day.โ
Keith: Yes. And what is in that day?
Nehemia: That day is the great and terrible day of Yehovah.
Keith: Is that the day weโre talking about? Is that the day that weโre talking about?
Nehemia: Thatโs usually what it is, although not necessarily – it could be other things, too.
Keith: Okay. Well, it says, โin that day,โ declares Yehovah,โ โneโum Yehovah,โ โsayeth Yehovah, โThat I will cut off your horses from among you and destroy your chariots.โโ In other words, whatever youโre depending on, whatever you think is your strength, youโve got this, you know, horses and chariots and imagesโฆโ
Nehemia: Yes. Can I just say one more thing about the phrase that you focused on? โVehayah bayom hahu,โ โAnd it shall come to pass on that day.โ So Iโm looking 32 times that appears, that exact phrase, and the first time it appears is Isaiah. Then it appears in Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Hosea, Joel, Amos, Micah, Zephaniah, and Zachariah. And what do all those have in common? So in Hebrew, we have this block of books called, The Latter Prophets. Weโre doing Prophet Pearls, and we have Torah, Neviโim, Ketuvim.
Keith: The Latter Prophets.
Nehemia: We have Torah, Neviโim, Ketuvim – Torah, or instruction, Prophets, and Writings. But among the Prophets, there is a division in the Hebrew between the Former Prophets and the Latter Prophets. The Former Prophets are the history books, Joshua, Judges, Samuel, and Kings. And then you have the Latter Prophets. There are four Latter Prophets just like thereโs four Former Prophets, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, and the Twelve. And the Twelve in Hebrew is actually one scroll. Itโs twelve books, but itโs one scroll.
Keith: Itโs funny, in our tradition we call them the Minor Prophets.
Nehemia: Well, the Minor – because theyโre small, I guess.
Keith: Theyโre small, yes, but theyโre not minor. [laughing]
Nehemia: No. So itโs only in the Latter Prophets that we have this phrase, โAnd it shall come to pass on that day.โ
Keith: Wow.
Nehemia: Thatโs interesting. Iโve never noticed that, 32 times.
Keith: But it says, โI will cut off the cities,โ Iโm sorry. Yes, โthe horses from among you and destroy your chariots.โ Kind of as signs of strength, the signs of the things maybe that people dependโฆ
Nehemia: Of human strength.
Keith: Yes, of human strength. Those things will be cut off. Then it says, โI will also cut off the cities of your land and tear down all of your fortifications.โ But Iโm saying, thereโs this ebb and flow. โThis is what Iโm going to do. This is what Iโm going to do. This is whatโs going to happen. This is what youโre going to see.โ You really have to kind of get the overall picture, and I donโt know how to do it other than just to read. You just read and see whatโs going on. But thatโs what Heโs saying here.
But then it says, โnot only Iโm going to cut off the cities,โ in English, it says here, โIโm going to cut off sorceries from your hand,โ Thatโs the word thatโs used.
Nehemia: Thatโs in a different verse. I think youโre mixing verses.
Keith: No, 11. 11?
Nehemia: So thereโs a series of things Heโs going to cut off. Heโs going to cut off the horses. Heโs going to cut off the cities. Heโs going to cut off the sorceries.
Keith: Itโs the next verse.
Nehemia: Heโs going to cut off the idols. Right. So itโs verse 11 in the Hebrew, I assume itโs 12 in the English.
Keith: Yes, itโs 12 in the English, โI will cut off your sorceries from your hand, and you will have,โ and then it uses the word, I donโt know whatโsโฆ
Nehemia: โMeโononim,โ which is diviners.
Keith: Are they fortune-tellers, Nehemia?
Nehemia: Fortune-tellers, diviners, people who prophesy the future and look up to the stars and tell the future based on constellations in the heaven, and certainโฆ what you call those?
Keith: But youโre making that up. So you mean to tell me if someone looks at the patterns of whatโs going on and then says, โThis is whatโs going to happen,โ that theyโre considered like a fortune-teller?
Nehemia: Yes.
Keith: Whatโs the technical term here? Letโs use the technical term here.
Nehemia: If we want to get technical, weโve got to go to Deuteronomy 18. Can we do that?
Keith: Yes, thatโs what Iโd like to do.
Nehemia: All right. Letโs go to Deuteronomy 18. And itโs funny – just before we started recording, I said to Keith, โI got nothing on this.โ [laughing]
Keith: You guys, itโs the funniest thing. Iโm going to tell a funny story about Nehemia. So while heโs looking for thatโฆ
Nehemia: I got it.
Keith: So one of the reasons that I was excited to do this is that I donโt think people really, unfortunately, they donโt get a chance to really interact with people that maybe come from a different perspective, especially as it pertains to the Hebrew Bible, just because I donโt thinkโฆ Can I say this? I want to be really honest.
Nehemia: Whatโs that? Sure.
Keith: I think that a lot of people who know Hebrew, who actually know how to read it, arenโt so interested in having conversations with people that donโt come from their same theological background and their religious background. And so it really is kind of a sad story that folks literally have to either change who they are to get access – and youโve never asked for that. Youโve never asked for people to actually have to get on board. You know, โBecome a Karaite before I will share this with you. Be just like me and think like me and act like me.โ
Probably the reason that you get in so much trouble is because, if anything, itโs the exact opposite – that you want to give people the information, and you donโt put it upon them to have to jump through some hoops before they can get that information. But one of the things that I do, and I do it on purpose, is I do a lot of setups in theseโฆ I just have to confess it, Nehemia. I do a lot of setups where Iโm like, โOkay, how can I get him to talk about this?โ And youโll say, โYes, Keith, I just donโt know, I donโt have a lot here.โ Iโm like, โRightโฆ Youโre going to have more than you can imagine!โ [laughing] So I have these little setups, and this is one of them. I want you to talk about this.
Nehemia: Sure. All right. And we talked about this in the Original Torah Pearls, which you can find on nehemiaswall.com and bfainternational.com. So heโs talking here in Deuteronomy 18 about prophets, and thereโs going to be a prophet from among you, and there will also be a false prophet, beware of him.
But then the context here is how the peoples of the land – the heathens, the pagans – what they do is they donโt even go to prophets. What they do is they go to these fortune-tellers, these people who look at the heavens and predict whatโs going to happen.
Keith: Man, this is a great word, Nehemia. This is a great word, 5:12. This is a great word. Go ahead.
Nehemia: Yes. So hold on, itโs in Deuteronomy 18, I just had it a second ago. I had it, and then you started talking, and I lost it. [laughing]
Keith: Iโm sorry, folks. I apologize. Well, do your thing tap, tap. Come on, tap, tap.
Nehemia: Right. Okay, hold on a second. Itโs here inโฆ oh, here it is. In verse 14 it says, โFor these nations which you are going to inherit them.โ Letโs see. โThey go to the meโonenim and the kosmim they listen to.โ And thereโs some question what the exact nuance of each of these terms is. Like for example, some say meโonenim are those who look at the clouds to tell the future. And kosmim we translate, I suppose, in Modern Hebrew, we translate it as a magician, but itโs more specifically somebody who uses magic to tell the future or to control the supernatural. And then thereโs a list of specific things or types of this magic, which I think we just skipped.
Keith: No.
Nehemia: Where is that? Oh, here it is! Itโs verses 10 and 11. This is almost like a menu.
Keith: Yes.
Nehemia: Itโs a list of these different things. It says โThere shall not be found among you one that causes his son or his daughter to pass through the fire,โ thatโs the Molech worship, the human sacrifice. It says, โkosem ksamim,โ a magician, someone who performs magic, โmeโonen,โ someone whoโฆ
Keith: What are you reading right now?
Nehemia: Verse 10 of Deuteronomy 18.
Keith: Oh, of Deuteronomy 18. Iโm sorry. I thought you saidโฆ okay, go ahead.
Nehemia: Yes. You wanted the basis in the Torah of what heโs talking about is Deuteronomy 18 verse 10. And it says, โmeโonen uโmenachesh uโmechashef,โ which is one who looks at clouds, and one who divines, and one who performs – a witch, you could translate as.
Keith: Wow.
Nehemia: โVechover chaver,โ which is some other kind of magic, they say it has to do with bones, โand he who asks the ghost or a familiar spirit, and one who seeks the dead.โ And basically, what this is talking about is these different ways of predicting the future or controlling the supernatural, whether itโs by using the bones of animals or looking at livers or things like that, various Pagan things.
And then Isaiah 47 speaks about this, as well, Iโll just read that real quick. He says, 47, Iโll read in verse 12, โStand up, with your spells and your many enchantments on which you labored since youth! Perhaps youโll be able to profit, perhaps you will find strength. You are helpless, despite all your art.โ And the word โartโ there, actually, in Hebrew, heโs talking about this knowledge they have that they used to try to predict the future. โLet them stand up and help you now, the scanners of heaven, the star-gazers, who announce, month by month, whatever will come upon you.โ
Keith: The scanners of heaven?
Nehemia: And so what we had there is people back then who would look up in the sky and they would say, โThereโs a certain alignment taking place, and based on this alignment, and based on this omen in this heavens, we know this is going to happen or thatโs going to happen.โ And they would use this to predict the future, and really, to just terrify people so that they could control them. And heโs speaking against them, and I love verse 14 of Isaiah 47, who ties it in, he says, โSee, they are become like straw, fire consumes them. They cannot save themselves from the power of the flame, this is no coal for warming oneself, no fire to sit by!โ Theyโre really going to get burned – the people who make these predictions by looking up at the heavens and make predictions on whatโs going to happen in the future based on alignments and things like that.
Keith: Well, you know itโs something.
Nehemia: I think we call that astrology.
Keith: Yes. Itโs funny, because the English word they use often is the word โsorcererโ, and they use the word sorcerer, itโs almost like the English is doing this – and maybe I might be going a little far I donโt want to think itโs a conspiracy – but itโs almost like by using the word sorcerer, youโre like, โWell, thatโs the days of whatever.โ
Nehemia: Well, I think what it is, is itโs something thatโs really easy to identify and sort of demonize, which is like, letโs say, Harry Potter.
Keith: Exactly! I hate that Harry Potter.
Nehemia: And the point of Isaiah 47 and Deuteronomy 18, what we just read, is that it doesnโt always look like Harry Potter. Sometimes it looks like something much more familiar. It might be something that looks like, โHey, Iโm going to comeโฆโ I mean can I throw under the bus the people Iโm thinking about? Weโve got these Kabbalists, who will come along in my tradition, and theyโll look up and theyโll say thereโs this in the constellation, and theyโll bring you some ancient Jewish source, which was doing the same sort of thing – because there is ancient Jewish magic, and itโs a sin. Itโs against the will of God.
But theyโll bring this to you and say, โLook, this is what our ancient rabbi said.โ And generally, it tends to be these Kabbalists, and theyโll say, โAnd then thereโs this thing with the moon thatโs going to happen, and there are these other alignments.โ And theyโll do this to try to predict the future. And any time somebody looks up at the stars of heaven and is telling you, โIโm going to predict the future based on that,โ that doesnโt have to be Harry Potter, but thatโs biblical necromancy – or not necromancy – but magic and divination. Divination is the broadest term.
Keith: Wow.
Nehemia: Thatโs โkosem ksamimโ in Hebrew.
Keith: Yes. There it is. I mean as weโre saying in Micah, heโs sayingโฆ
Nehemia: And the point of Micah is, โLook, you donโt want to rely on me, you want to rely on yourselves. You want to get this information about whatโs going to happen in the future, not through me, but through looking up at the stars of heaven and figuring it out for yourself.โ
Keith: Man, oh man. And isnโt it something that weโre talking about ancient times and modern times?
Nehemia: Yes.
Keith: You know, wow. Okay.
Nehemia: Letโs move on.
Keith: 5:13, the next thing heโs going to cut off, itโs the third thing heโs going to cut off.
Nehemia: Yes.
Keith: โI will cut off your carved images.โ
Nehemia: And it says, โthe asherecha.โ Asherah was the goddess who was represented by a tree.
Keith: Yes. โAnd your sacred pillars from among you, so that you will no longer bow down to the work of your hands.โ Man!
Nehemia: What are you reading? Youโre reading a different verse.
Keith: No, thatโs 13.
Nehemia: Oh, Iโm in 13 in the Hebrew. Youโre in 13 in the English. [laughing] Weโre in different verses.
Keith: Yes. Now, weโre going to get to the asherim. You keep saying, โWhat are you reading? Thatโs the wrong one.โ Look.
Nehemia: I donโt have the English. Iโm just looking at the Hebrew.
Keith: Okay. So folks, as youโre listening to this, bear with us on here. So I have to read 13 before I can get to 14, but thatโs actually 12.
But Iโm saying, first Heโs saying about these fortune-tellers and sorcerers. Heโs talking about what Heโs going to cut off. Then He goes from cutting off to rooting out, and thatโs the verse that youโre talking about there. He says, โI will root out your asherim from among you and destroy your cities.โ
Nehemia: Yes. Okay.
Keith: We talked about that before.
Nehemia: Yes.
Keith: โAnd I will execute vengeance in anger and wrath on the nations which have not obeyed.โ And weโre about to have a switch here before we get to 6:1. Is there anything, Nehemia, that when youโre reading through thisโฆ and I will say again, the endorphins, as I mentioned to you, theyโre kind of taking over for me. Itโs like literally I justโฆ
Nehemia: Hereโs what strikes me about this passage.
Keith: Yes.
Nehemia: So heโs talking about what I would call the end times, the great and terrible day of Yehovah, and Iโm saying that in a very general sense, because within that, there are subdivisions of things that will happen at different times. But generally, weโre talking about some kind of end-times scenario. Heโs talking about thereโs going to be people who are performing divination and magic. And wait a minute. Hereโs what I was taught growing up – that in the ancient days we used to worship idols, but God came and blinded Satan, or the yetzer hara, the rabbis call him, we blinded Satan, and ever since then weโve never had the desire to worship idols. And so now we deal with gossip against our neighbor and we deal with really minor things.
Keith: Who says that?
Nehemia: This is what I was taught growing up.
Keith: Really?
Nehemia: This is a Rabbinical doctrine that in ancient times there was idolatry, but the stuff weโre dealing with is peanuts compared to what they had to deal with in biblical times. And I read this, and I realize, โWait a minute, what I was taught is completely false. Weโre dealing with biblical idolatry up until the end times. Itโs not going to go away. Itโs going to be there. And itโs not going to be cut off until that day.โ And I look around and I say, โWell, where is that today among Godโs people?โ And when you look, then all of a sudden you find it.
Keith: You find it. Itโs there.
Nehemia: Itโs there. Itโs masqueraded as other things. You know, itโll be a holy rabbi, whoโs studying an ancient Hebrew text. But it turns out heโs no different than the ancient magician.
Keith: And I have to say something – you mentioned earlier, Nehemia, you kind of said it, you were talking about Kabbalah. And I have to be careful about this, I want to be sensitive, but you do see how those things sneak their way in, sort of like โAnd it says this,โ or they might not even tell you where it comes from. โAnd our ancients taught usโฆโ โOur history saysโฆโ And you can say it in those words, in those phrases, โAncient sages said…โ
And when I see that, that sort of sometimes is code language. Sometimes itโs code language for that kind of thing that I think thatโs absolutely something that we donโt want to be a part of.
Nehemia: In my approach as a Karaite Jew, of course, in full disclosure, Iโm a Karaite Jew. When I look at the ancient writings of Jews, I always check it against Scripture. โIf it doesnโt fit, you must acquit.โ
Keith: Iโm liking that.
Nehemia: If it doesnโt fit Scripture it doesnโt matter if it was spoken by someone who predates Moses. I mean think about that. The fact that Moses is telling us not to perform these forms of divination and magic means there were people who were doing them.
One of the fights Iโve had with my Jewish brothers and sisters – not all them, but some – is that theyโll go to the grave of a rabbi and theyโll pray to that rabbi asking for intercession before God. And I say, wait a minute; Deuteronomy 18 speaks about seeking the dead, doresh al hametim. Why are you praying to a dead rabbi? I know itโs a little off-topic.
Well, the point is that we can delude ourselves and tell ourselves, โWell, today weโre only dealing with the minor issues; the big issues weโre in biblical times. Thatโs what my people have said. And in reality, no, weโve got the same issues they had back then, and in some ways, theyโre worse because they pretend to look like something holy. Although back then they looked like they were something holy, too, itโs just a different thing.
The point is, when you actually face it, it wonโt look like Harry Potter. Itโll look like a rabbi with side locks who looks really holy and righteous, but heโs performing divination and magic. Heโll be speaking about Torah. Heโll be throwing out Torah words and phrases. Heโll be using cute little blessings and benedictions and phrases. But in the end, when you look at it, ultimately, what heโs saying heโs trying to predict the future by looking up at the stars of heaven and the moon and the sun. Then we call that divination.
Keith: Okay.
Nehemia: Yes.
Keith: Before we go to 6:1, thereโs something I want us to teach people if we could.
Nehemia: Please.
Keith: Actually, I want to say by โteach them,โ I want to just bring it as an issue. So weโve had this struggle, we make jokes about it back and forth, which verse are we in? Are we in 14? Are we in 11? And we go back and forth. But in the Hebrew text, there are really some signs. I call them road signs, Nehemia, that are there. And one of them is, I just want to ask you how you interpret this. When you see a โSamek,โ the letter โSamekโ at the end of a verse.
Nehemia: โSamach.โ
Keith: โSamach?โ Okay. Look, itโs โSamekโ for me. Thatโs what they tell me at the seminary. Okay?
Nehemia: Okay.
Keith: So when you see that โSamek,โ or โSamach,โ what does that say to you when youโre reading in the text?
Nehemia: First of all, letโs back up. What I read in the Hebrew manuscripts, in the Aleppo Codex and Leningrad Codex and Damascus Crown, these Hebrew manuscripts, I wonโt see a โSamech,โ and I wonโt see a โPey.โ And just for those who donโt know, there are two types of paragraph divisions in the Hebrew. In the Hebrew manuscripts there are no chapter numbers. I guess you could argue there are in the Book of Psalms, that there are chapters. But there are no chapter divisions. There are no verse numbers in the original Hebrew text. The verses are divided, but theyโre not numbered.
Keith: Yes.
Nehemia: And so in our printed Hebrew Bibles and in your computer program, you have a thing where it says โSamech,โ and it says โPeyโ to tell you that there are different types of chapter divisions. And the โSamechโ is called the parasha stumah, the closed portion, and the petucha, the open portion. And that actually just describes the type of paragraph division.
So a closed portion means what you actually see in the manuscript isnโt a โSamech,โ what you see is there is an end of a section, and then a space, and the next section begins on the same line of the manuscript. Hapetucha, Iโm sorry thatโs the stumah, yes. The petucha, or the โPey,โ means that in the manuscript thereโll be the end of the section, end of the paragraph, and the next paragraph begins on the next line. Meaning, that space is open, it goes all the way to the end of the line. And itโs been argued that the open paragraph mark is a bigger break than the closed paragraph mark. Thatโs not entirely clear.
What is clear is that these paragraph divisions tell us more or less, and itโs not so straightforward, but they tell us more or less that hereโs the end of one prophecy, hereโs the beginning of the next prophecy. Now, sometimes in the middle of the prophecy, thereโll be subdivisions like that. We even have examples, itโs rare, but weโll have a division like that in the middle of a verse, itโs called piskah beโemtzah pasuk. That happens, as well. And that usually is for some sort of emphasis.
Keith: Well, what I appreciate about it is when Iโve got my English Bible and then Iโve got the Hebrew text open, and I see that. Thatโs where I kind of say, โWell, thatโs a good a pause.โ
Nehemia: Itโs definitely a pause.
Keith: Yes.
Nehemia: And so for example, in what we just read, we startedโฆ What verse did we start in, actually? Iโm so confused by the verse numbers.
Keith: It depends on what you want to say.
Nehemia: Oh, we started in verse 8 in the Hebrew, which was verse 9 in the English.
Keith: No, verse 7 in the English. โThe remnant of Jacob,โ is 7.
Nehemia: So Iโm looking right now, it saysโฆ Oh, youโre right. Youโre right.
Keith: Iโm right! Wait, stop the recording. Hold on just a second!
Nehemia: No, this is history. This has never happened before. [laughing]
Keith: Hold on, folks! We need to stop the recording. Okay? Weโre going to stop the recording. Nehemia just said, โNo, Keith, youโre right.โ And he didnโt even have an explanation after it!
Nehemia: You just happen to be right sometimes.
Keith: [laughing] Go ahead.
Nehemia: Iโm just messing with you.
Keith: All right.
Nehemia: No, so youโre absolutely right. All right. So chapter 5 verse 6 in Hebrew, which is verse 7 in English, begins a new section. And how do I know? Because before that, between 5 and 6, is a โSamech,โ in this text. In the manuscript, what Iโd actually see would be a space in the middle of the line. But it tells me thereโs a new thought there. It actually, in many instances, especially in the Prophets, indicates this is a new prophecy.
And often youโll say, โBut wait a minute – this is a continuation of the last prophecy or the last section, why do you say itโs a new prophecy?โ And what tends to happen is the prophet will… the way itโs arranged in many sections very often is thereโll be a certain subject heโs prophesying on, and maybe he prophesied it 30 different occasions, and theyโll take those different prophecies and put them next to each other so you can read them as a running text. But theyโre actually different prophetic occasions.
Keith: Yes.
Nehemia: And again, I go back to Jonah who prophesied, โAnd it was arbaโim yom veโNineveh nehepachet,โ โforty days and Nineveh is overthrown.โ It was a four-word prophecy in Hebrew. And by the way, can I just talk about something completely off-topic real quick? So I donโt know if you know this, but today, as weโre recording this, or recently – I donโt know if it was actually today, I heard about it today – the ISIS terrorists in Iraq have destroyed an ancient Assyrian site. I think itโs called โNimrud,โ which is just the Arabic translation of Nimrod. Youโve got to wonder if itโs not that city mentioned possibly in the Book of Genesis.
And then they said on the news how theyโre physically destroying the ruins because they want the only culture in the world to be Islam, and the ancient culture that existed there, to them, that has to be wipedโฆ like, literally, theyโre grinding it into dust. And they said they also have already done this, and I didnโt know this, they already have done this to Nineveh, the ancient Assyrian capital. The one where Jonah walked the streets. ISIS has now come and ground the ruins of Nineveh into the dust.
Keith: Let me tell you something, Nehemia. Thatโs really interesting. The verse before…
Nehemia: It breaks my heart that someone… It breaks my heart.
Keith: The verse before the verse we start actually says, โThey will shepherd the land of Assyria with the sword, the land of Nimrod at its entrances.โ Itโs actually the verse before, 5:6.
Nehemia: And today, Nimrod has been destroyed.
Keith: Been destroyed. And they showed video of them actually going to some of the ancient things that were there, and actually taking sledgehammers and smashing them and cutting them and… You know, Jonahโs tomb, the tomb of Jonah.
Nehemia: They destroyed it. Unbelievable.
Keith: They blew it up, and that was on the video. And I got to be honest with you, Nehemia. When you bring this up – and you know Iโm not trying to pick a fight – but this is where I just say, โWhen do you say theyโve done enough damage, you know, youโve just got to go in there and do what you got to do?โ
Nehemia: Blast them back to the Stone Age.
Keith: Yes.
Nehemia: Yes. Well, what theyโre dealing with is these people are hiding behind civilians, and they actually learned this from the Palestinians. And theyโre literally, I heard an interview today with the guy in the Iraqi army, heโs like, โWhat do you want us to do? This is really difficult, theyโre hiding behind civilians and theyโre using them as human shields, and these are our civilians.โ Heโs Iraqi. Theyโre trying to liberate these areas of Iraq that were conquered by ISIS.
And hereโs what happens. America pulled out and left this power vacuum and left behind these guys who couldnโt… They destroyed the Iraqi government, and then they came in and occupied the country, and there was this weak army that couldnโt defend itself, and these terrorists take over. Itโs a problem. Itโs a real problem. Yes.
So my prayer goes out that Yehovah will smite these evildoers and crush them. But maybe theyโre there for a purpose. I donโt know what that purpose is.
Keith: Wow.
Nehemia: Then I think, โWait a minute, as someone with a degree in archaeology, it breaks my heart to hear about what theyโre doing to the archaeology.โ But then I think, โWait a minute, what are they doing to the humans?โ Theyโre selling them as sex slaves, and theyโre cutting off their heads, and theyโre burning them alive. Why? Because theyโre not Muslim. Or sometimes theyโre Muslim, but theyโre part of the wrong Muslim denomination. I mean literally, theyโre doing that. I mean, these guys are just evil.
Keith: Yes. Okay. Weโve only got a few more verses, but theyโre important.
Nehemia: Yes.
Keith: โListen, you mountainsโฆโ Can I continue here?
Nehemia: Please.
Keith: Oh, no, no.
Nehemia: 6:1.
Keith: 6:1, โHear now what Yehovah is saying,โ itโs interesting itโs โshimโu.โ
Nehemia: โShimโu,โ which is the plural of Shema.
Keith: Yes, which is the plural of Shema. [singing] โShema Israel Yehovah Eloheinu, Yehovah Ehad.โ โHear now what Yehovah is saying, โArise, plead your case before the mountains, and let the hills hear your voice.โโ Wow. โListen, you mountains, to the indictment,โ is that a good word there, Nehemia?
Nehemia: No.
Keith: You donโt like that?
Nehemia: Indictment, itโs โriv,โ which is โan argument against,โ or a strife heโs got.
Keith: KJV says โcontroversy.โ
Nehemia: Okay. You could say that.
Keith: Yes. โTo the controversy of Yehovah, and you enduring foundations of the earth, because Yehovah has a case against His people.โ Let me do the legal terms now…
Nehemia: By the way, โcaseโ is the same exact word, โriv.โ It appears twice.
Keith: Yes. He has an indictment.
Nehemia: Why did they translate one as โindictment,โ one as โcaseโ? [laughing]
Keith: Because they can do whatever they want to do unless we check it. [laughing] They can do whatever they want. โBecause Yehovah has a case against His people,โ an indictment, a controversy, โEven with Israel He will dispute.โ Weโve moved into this sort of legal… is it fair? This conversation about whatโs going on. Itโs kind of cool. He says, go to the mountains and tell them about it.
Nehemia: All right. Well, they are the witnesses. Oh, and thereโs definitely like, Godโs going to bring a case against Israel here. Yes.
Keith: โMy people, what have I done to you.โ
Nehemia: Can I stop you here?
Keith: Go ahead. No problem.
Nehemia: One of the things we talked about in a recent episode was about how in Rabbinical tradition Satan is the kategor, the prosecutor, and I pointed out that thatโs actually not in the Tanakh. You definitely have him in an adversarial role in the royal court, in the holy court, up in, for example, in Job. But here, Yehovah is the prosecutor. So I think itโs really dangerous where we say, โYes, this is the role of Satan, and this is the role of the Archangel, Gabriel.โ Wait a minute. Is that in Scripture? Here, Yehovah is coming with a case against Israel and wants the mountains to hear what Heโs got to say.
Keith: Can you imagine? I was listening – and I know it sounds like a diversion – but I was watching the Nuremberg trial, the documentary.
Nehemia: Oh, wow. Back in 1947?
Keith: In 1947, no, I was watching…
Nehemia: But you were doing the more recently.
Keith: Well, yes, I was watching… No, but it was the actual oneโฆ
Nehemia: The video?
Keith: Yes, the video.
Nehemia: Oh, okay.
Keith: And I was watching it. It really is interesting – you talked about Yehovah bringing the case. Whatโs so phenomenal about that documentary is that the world, in effect, is like bringing this case against these guys. And I mean they spent months, Nehemia, and they had thousands of pages, and back and forth, back and forth. And then I think about this and whatโs happening, and I think, โBoy, you know what? What will it be like? Itโll be nothing compared to that when Yehovah brings the case. When He brings the case, thereโs not going to be any defense. Thereโs not going to be any argument back and forth.โ If I ever am standing in the court, I never want Him to be the prosecutor, be the prosecutor because, how can I stand? What can you say in His presence?
Nehemia: Yes. Yesterday we were riding on the train, here in Jerusalem, the light rail, and thereโs this big poster there. Because when you go on the bus in Israel, you pay the driver. When you go on the train, thereโs no one there to check you.
Keith: Iโve had a crisis with this with the driver. Itโs confusing.
Nehemia: So thereโs a big sign that says, thereโs no excuse not to pay for riding the train, and thereโs a picture there of a dog eating the train ticket.
Keith: [laughing] And you canโt figure out what heโs saying. What is he saying?
Nehemia: Right. And the message is, donโt come with the excuse, โthe dog ate my homework,โ or โthe dog ate my ticket.โ [laughing]
Keith: Thatโs right.
Nehemia: And when Yehovah comes with His case against us, no one will be able to say, โGeorgia ate the Bible, I couldnโt keep it.โ
Keith: You know whatโs funny about what you just brought up?
Nehemia: The dog ate Scripture.
Keith: You just brought up that story, and you know you can look at that dog, and you know that everyone understands what that image is.
Nehemia: Yes. Even though itโs not actually explained there. [laughing]
Keith: Exactly! But no one will be able to then say, โWell, I didnโt understand the image. I didnโt understand. It wasnโt in my culture.โ Like when you stand before Him, thereโs no excuse.
Nehemia: Yes.
Keith: And again, now weโre going to get to this. I donโt want to know what you want to do here, because weโre going to get to thisโฆ
Nehemia: I want to get to verse 8. When can we get the verseโฆ or 9 and 7 and 8?
Keith: If youโll just let me say this.
Nehemia: Okay.
Keith: If youโll just let me read real quick 3 and 4 and 6 real casually.
Nehemia: Yes.
Keith: โMy people, what have I done to you? How have I wearied you? Answer Me. Indeed, I am the one who brought you out of Egypt. I brought you out of the land of Egypt and ransomed you from the house of slavery,โ and you donโt want that to be the Word of the Week – okay. I donโt understand.
Nehemia: Didnโt we just do a Word of the Week?
Keith: No, we didnโt but thatโs okay. We will do it in a second. โAnd ransomed you,โ and actually, we did this word before.
Nehemia: So we wonโt do it again.
Keith: Yes, itโs โpadah.โ But here itโs โpaditah.โ Or no, โpadititah.โ
Nehemia: โPediticha.โ
Keith: Yes, โfrom the house of slavery, and I sent before you Moses, Aaron andโฆโ and I think this is what caught my attention.
Nehemia: Yes.
Keith: Because you said I have an agenda.
Nehemia: Wait. Is this the feminist agenda again? Oh no! [laughing]
Keith: [laughing] No, you called me the feminist agenda. It says, โIndeed, I brought you up from the land of Egypt and ransomed you from the house of slavery, and I sent before you Moses, and Aaron.โ No, it says, โI sent before you Moses, Aaron,โ and please tell me it doesnโt say in the Hebrew โMiriam.โ
Nehemia: Miriam, yes.
Keith: Is that a mistake?
Nehemia: No, it says that in the Hebrew.
Keith: So what do they mean by that? โI sent before you Moses, Aaron and Miriamโ?
Nehemia: She was a prophetess. It says that.
Keith: Wow. Amazing. Itโs not often that we talk about Miriam, other than she had leprosy and whatever.
Nehemia: She led the people in song in Exodus 15.
Keith: Not only was she a dancer and a singer, He says…
Nehemia: She was a prophetess.
Keith: Yes.
Nehemia: Miriam HaNeviah.
Keith: You know thatโs amazing. Thatโs amazing. Thatโs not something that I normally would hear or see. So it really caught my attention.
Nehemia: Yes, it caught you.
Keith: Iโd like you to make a comment about it.
Nehemia: Well, yes, before I commented on that, I would want to go look and see how often is Aaron mentioned, because I donโt know that heโs mentioned all that often either, outside of the context of the Kohanim. So Iโm just really quickly doing research.
Keith: Moses and Aaron are constantly mentioned, โWent before Pharaoh, Moses and Aaron.โ
Nehemia: Hereโs the homework for people.
Keith: Homework!
Nehemia: Outside of the Torah of the Five Books of Moses, how many times is Aaron mentioned where itโs not talking about the sons of Aaron, the Kohanim. And he is. For example, Joshua 24:5, โI sent Moses also and Aaron, and I plagued Egypt.โ So thereโs an example.
But then what wouldnโt count is Joshua 24:33, โAnd Eleazar son of Aaron died.โ Okay, so weโre not really talking about Aaron there, weโre talking about the Kohanim. How many times is Aaron mentioned? Iโll bet itโs not that many times.
Keith: Yes, but Iโll tell you what, Miriam…
Nehemia: Itโs more than Miriam, Iโll grant you that.
Keith: I think thatโs pretty cool.
Nehemia: The more the Miriamer.
Keith: Now…
Nehemia: That was funny. Actually, Miriam is mentioned only 15 times in the entire Tanakh.
Keith: Wow.
Nehemia: Yes.
Keith: But anyways, it says this, Nehemia, โMy people, remember now what Balak king of Moab counseled, and what Balaam son ofโฆโ
Nehemia: Thatโs why itโs this portion, because thatโs the weekly Torah portion that weโre talking about that.
Keith: Yes. What a phenomenal story.
Nehemia: I want to read verses 6 through 8.
Keith: Okay, good.
Nehemia: Could we read those real quick?
Keith: Yes, 6:6 for me?
Nehemia: 6:6 through 8.
Keith: Yes, โWith what shall I come to Yehovah and bow myself before the God on high? Shall I come to Him with burnt offerings, with yearling calves? Does Yehovah take a delight in thousands of rams, in ten thousand rivers of oil? Shall I present my firstborn for my rebellious acts, the fruit of my body, for the sin of my soul? He has told you, O man, what is good.โ Ah, I love this verse. โAnd what does Yehovah require of you but to do justice, to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?โ Go ahead.
Nehemia: Wow. First of all, this is homework for people, because weโre not going to… Iโd love to talkโฆ
Keith: What are you talking about? Iโm going to talk about the whole…
Nehemia: The next 45 minutes.
Keith: No, the last part I want to talk about that.
Nehemia: Okay. Can I give people the homework, and then they canโฆ?
Keith: Sure, yes.
Nehemia: Then they can stop listening and you can talk, okay?
Keith: Yes. Okay.
Nehemia: 1 Samuel chapter 15 verse 22. Write these down. These are passages in the Bible. And the reason this is homework is weโre actually going to come back to this in a future episode. These are the passages in the Tanakh – and maybe not all them โ there are a bunch of passages that talk about obedience versus sacrifice. We already talked about at least one in Jeremiah.
1 Samuel 15:22; Jeremiah 7:10; Micah 6:7 through 8 – thatโs this passage, Hosea 6:6. Of course, these are all the verses in the Hebrew, it might be one or two verses off in English. I donโt know. Isaiah 1:11. Amos 5:22 to 25. Psalm chapter 40 verse 6 or verse 7, depending on which version youโre reading. Psalm 51 verses 18 to 19. And those are just some of the passages that have this theme of โGod wants obedience, not sacrifices.โ And thatโs basically what itโs saying here. But I love verse 8. Can I share a story?
Keith: Yes.
Nehemia: So growing up in Chicago, we lived inโฆ well, we lived in two places, but when I was around eight years old we moved to Peterson Park, and literally, around the corner from the place where my family lived there was this synagogue. It was a huge, beautiful, ornate synagogue, and it had a giant sign in front of it quoting this verse in English. And itโs kind of tragic – in my whole life Iโve never been inside that synagogue, growing up. In fact, we would walk a significant distance some Shabbats, some Sabbaths, to the synagogue, so as to avoid that synagogue, the one with this big sign in front of it. And the reason is that my father was an Orthodox rabbi and that was a Conservative synagogue. And the way my father described it is the Conservative Jews are worse than Christians. [laughing] Thatโs the way my father used to describe it. Looking back, itโs funny, you know, here I am sitting with a Methodist. But my father liked you.
Anyway. So why is it that we never stepped foot in that synagogue? Part of it was that they were a different denomination, and this is, you know, we sometimes call it the tribes of Israel. How divided we are among the Jewish people, sometimes. On the other hand, weโre very united in some ways. So I remember my father, when he looked at this verse on the wall of that Conservative synagogue, what he saw is, โhereโs an excuse not to keep the Torahโ. Thatโs what he heard from this verse.
Keith: What?
Nehemia: That theyโre quoting this verse to get out of keeping the commandments. And why is that? You know, you could read it that way. โHe has told you, man, what is good, and what Yehovah,โ or the Lord, as they read it, โWhat the Lord seeks from you but to do justice,โ or judgment, โand to love righteousness and to walk humbly with your God.โ
Okay. So the way he looked at it – and Iโm not saying this is what the Conservatives did, I donโt think it is – but from his perspective, here are these people who donโt follow all the Rabbinical rules and regulations, all of the takkanot and maโasim. They donโt follow all of this minutia of Rabbinical law, and then they quote this verse. And their point is, โLook, I donโt have to do this because God doesnโt expect me to. All He wants me is to walk humbly with him and be a good person.โ So what do youโฆ talk to me about that.
Keith: Well, no. Iโve been waiting for this verse from the beginning of Prophet Pearls until the end. This verse is the verse for me that I absolutely 100% not only love, but continually think about.
Nehemia: Really?
Keith: I like to go with the verse word by word, and in English, it says, โHe has told you,โ and you use the word righteousness there, and itโs actually, โin the kindness.โ He uses the word โchesed.โ
Nehemia: โChesedโ is a difficult word to translate.
Keith: It is hard to translate. But I will tell you that when I think about it, I think about the description of who Yehovah is and how He treats us. And when I look at this word – and again, this is where Iโve been waiting to get to this, because I really want to lift this up, where it says, โAnd what does Yehovah seek,โ in other words is โdoresh.โ โWhat does He seek from you, but, or that, if you should do mishpat,โ judgment, โand that you should love chesed and that you should humbly,โ I guess youโd say, โto walk humbly,โ โto be humble with.โ
Nehemia: To walk in, yes.
Keith: Yes, โto be humble with Elohekha,โ with your God.
Nehemia: Or, โto walk humbly with your God.โ
Keith: Yes, โwith your God.โ And the thing that I love about this is that I just ask myself on a daily basis, โAm I my walking and am I doing justice? Am I loving? Not just being kind, but do I love to be kind? And am I walking humbly with Him?โ I realized that thereโs so much about Him that no matter how much I study, and what I do, Iโm just in a process of taking it piece-by-piece, learning little-by-little, and what a beautiful experience it is. Itโs not about being a know-it-some and itโs not about being a know-it-all. Itโs about being in a process of a relationship with Him that is about how I love Him and how I love others.
So this for me, this verse, Micah 6:8, when I look through Prophet Pearls, I thought, โYou know what? If we donโt talk about anything else, I want to make sure that I talk about that.โ That to me is what it means. And you said that your father said, โTheyโre making it almost like,โ Iโm misquoting him, sorry. โItโs like the shortcut of the way out to not having to deal with the Torah.โ
Nehemia: โGod doesnโt really care if I keep the Sabbath. God doesnโt really care if I eat pig or not. All He wants me to do is be a good person and walk humbly with Him.โ
Keith: Yes. But just interesting what it…
Nehemia: This is the perception that at least my father had of the Conservatives. Why did they quote this verse of all the verses? The verse they should have quoted was, โYou shall keep My Sabbaths and obey My statutes.โ Why did they put this verse? His perspective was that this is a way of getting out of keeping the commandments.
Keith: Actually, itโs really…
Nehemia: And the question I have is, is he right? Is that what the verse means?
Keith: No, and let me say something.
Nehemia: What does the verse mean?
Keith: When I look at this verse, I think exactly the opposite of what he thinks. I think exactly this is what it means for me to love Him and to love my neighbor.
Nehemia: Amen.
Keith: When I think of this, I think about everything Iโve read, everything weโve talked about, everything weโve studied.
Nehemia: Come on, Yeshua.
Keith: No. All the stuff that we talked about in Prophet Pearls, Torah Pearls, and everything else weโve ever done. I think about this verse, and Iโm thinking, โMan, what a beautiful thing Micah has written.โ โHe has told you. He has shown you. He has let you know, O man, what is good. And what does Yehovah seek of you but to do justice, to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?โ That for me is it. Thatโs what itโs about, and I believe that thatโs the entire Bible. Itโs like, wow, thatโs what it means for me to be in a relationship with Him. Okay.
Nehemia: Now, do you know that Micah is referencing a verse back in Deuteronomy chapter 10 verse 12?
Keith: Say it, brother.
Nehemia: Okay. โAnd Yehovah said unto me, โArise, take your journey before the people, that they may go in and possess the land, which I swore unto their fathers to give them.โโ Then verse 12 is the key verse, โAnd now, Israel, what does Yehovah your God require of you?โ Does that sound familiar? [laughing] โBut to fear Yehovah your God, to walk in all His ways, and to love Him, and to serve Yehovah your God with all your heart and with all your soul.โ
Keith: โWith all your heart and with all your soul.โ
Nehemia: โTo keep the commandments of Yehovah and His statutes, which I command thee this day for your good.โ So Micah chapter 6 verse 8 is Deuteronomy chapter 10 verses 12 to 13. What does Yehovah want from us? To walk humbly with Him, to keep His commandments, to love righteousness, to love chesed, lovingkindness, to do justice, this is what itโs about. This is the underlying principle of the entire Torah is summarized here in Micah chapter 6 verse 8 and Deuteronomy chapter 10 verses 12 to 13. I know Iโve said this many times, and you make fun of me about this being my favorite verse in the entire Tanakh.
Keith: No, you canโt say this. No, we canโt agree that this is our favorite verse. You canโt say that, Nehemia!
Nehemia: Itโs not yours, itโs mine.
Keith: No, as I said Iโve been waiting for this verse.
Nehemia: This is one of my top 50 favorite verses in the entire Tanakh. I wouldnโt say itโs my favorite verse, but itโs definitely up there among my favorite verses in the entire Tanakh. These two passages together are such a powerful image and picture. And think about it – it really is a powerful saying. What does God want from me? What does He want from me? And He tells you exactly what he wants from you! Now, maybe to fulfill that isnโt such a simple thing, it requiresโฆ you know, I have to fashion my entire life around what He wants me. I can go live my life the way I want to and do certain things which God considers to be sinful or not humble, but if I want to know what He wants from me, He tells me straight out what He wants for me.
And yes, there are details to what that entails, and how I have to live my life, and how I have to adjust according to His expectations. But bottom line, what does He want from me? Yes, be a good person and love God and love your neighbor. Thatโs really what both of these passages are saying. Now, what that entails – thatโs what the whole rest of the Torah is about.
And thereโs this beautiful statement of a rabbi, and here I can say this is the most beautiful statement any rabbi ever spoke, definitely the number one statement. They came to the Rabbi and they said, โWhat is…โ Actually, hereโs the phrase, he said, โTeach me the entire Torah standing on one foot.โ Meaning, the amount of time you can balance on one foot teach me the entire Torah. And he quoted – and youโll love this – he said, โVeโahavta lereโacha kamocha.โ โLove your neighbor as you love yourself.โ And he says, โThe rest is commentary, go out and learn it.โ And thatโs so profound. That really is a pretty profound statement. I believe that was Rabbi Hillel, who lived around 30 B.C. And Iโm probably misquoting it, go look it up and post in the comments of nehemiaswall.com and bfainternational.com. Someone find that and please post it. But it really is a beautiful concept.
The point here is, this is what God wants from us, and itโs really simple. We make it complicated, but it really is simple.
Keith: Amen. And so thatโs Nehemiaโs top 50, itโs my top 10. All I can say isโฆ I donโt even know what to say.
Nehemia: Itโs beautiful.
Keith: Itโs beautiful.
Nehemia: Absolutely beautiful. And I love the context here, verses 6 to 7, which again was the homework. But the point was, you think what you have to do is perform these different rituals and bring this sacrifice and sprinkle this blood and burn this flour. Come on guys – this is not what itโs about. You could bring me thousands of rams and tens of thousands of rivers of oil. Thatโs not what itโs about. Itโs about serving Yehovah, walking humbly with Him. Can I get an Amen?
Keith: Amen.
Nehemia: Iโm going to end here with prayer. Yehovah, avinu shebashamayim. Yehovah our Father in heaven. Goโalenu, our redeemer. Yehovah, Iโm so thankful that weโve had the opportunity to come here in this city that You put Your name on forever and speak about Your word, Yehovah. And Iโve had the opportunity, Yehovah, to come back from China and share with people about Your word. Thatโs such a blessing for me.
I know when I went off on that boat to Tarshish, to China, I thought that was the end of the ministry, and Iโd put in a good 15-20 years, and that was it. But Yehovah, You had plans for me. And I know I was over in China, and I struggled, and I was on my face and I was asking You, โYehovah, what is it You want from me? What do You have planned for me? What are You doing with me? Because this isnโt going the way I thought it was supposed to go, Yehovah.โ
But Iโve been trusting in Yehovah. I know that You have a plan for me. I know that You have a path for me, and all I have to do is walk humbly, and You will lead me, and I will do my best to follow You, Yehovah.
Yehovah, I ask for peace for the city Jerusalem and for Your people Israel. And Yehovah, it is written, โKarov Yehovah lechol korโav vechol asher ikrehu beโemet.โ โYehovah is close to all who call Him, to all who call upon Him in truth.โ Yehovah, I ask You to have mercy today upon everyone who calls upon You in truth, Yehovah, whether they are those who know Your name, Yehovah, or maybe those who mispronounced Your name or donโt even know Your name at all, who call upon the name of another God, as it says in Psalm 44, โA foreign god in a foreign land.โ And they think theyโre calling upon You, but they donโt know any better, Yehovah. It says that You will examine their hearts and You will know their spirit and You will have mercy on them because Youโre that merciful. You have that much chesed for mankind, for your creations, for those who You have formed and fashioned. And You love us. I know You love us, Yehovah.
Iโm so thankful for these words, these love letters that were written by Your prophets, that were written with Your words. These prophets came and wrote these words, and now we can open them up and read them and see how much You love us. Iโm grateful for that, Yehovah. I ask that You continue to guide us as we share the Prophet Pearls and we continue about in our ministries. In Your holy name, Yehovah. Amen.
Keith: Amen.
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Verses Mentioned:
Jeremiah 26:18
Micah 3:12
Dt 32:2
Isaiah 47
Dt 18:9-14
Dt 10:12-13
God Wants Obedience Not Sacrifices
1 Samuel 15:22
Jeremiah 7:10
Micah 6:7-8
Hosea 6:6
Isaiah 1:11
Amos 5:22-25
Psalm 40:6[7]
Psalm 51:18-19
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Hi Nehemias,
Thank you for your teachings. I want to ask for prayer. I have discovered the truth about Shabbat and I am having an uphill battle to keep it with my Employer. Is like the Hebrews trying to worship God and Pharos impeding my worship. I am not a Christian, nor a Jew. I am a believer. I have found very difficult to be understood. Your teaching has led me to the truth along with another Rabbi.
Wherever the phrase “And it came to pass” is used disaster is being foretold.
Micah 6:7-8 is a beautiful passage and shows the difference between our God and the heathen gods. YHVH does not take delight in seeing animals slaughtered and blood flowing and get some sort of pleasure from it. That is the horrific outcome of our disobedience. No, He wants us to love Him, love our neighbour and walk humbly with Him and that way, there will be no need for sacrifices. That is the the character and chesed of YHVH. He is undescribably loving and awesome.
I don’t know why in the end pray mentioned China. But I do believe China is a special area although not open enough but less contaminated by the devil culture populor in west world. And I do believe Chinese had a good relationship with Yehovah in the ancient times just they forgot and didn’t know nowadays. So thanks for sharing I also pray to Yehovah for an answer for my this belief.
Thank you so much, and amen.
Regarding Micah 6:1 and pleading their case before the mountains. Nehemia said: “Well, they are the witnesses.” Where does it say in scripture that the mountains are witnesses? I can’t find it. Thank you, I learn a lot listening to these.
Fabulous teaching guys! So insightful from the Jew and the Christian.
Micah 6:4 …I redeemed you and I sent before you the whole life order of Moses, Aaron joined with Miriam. Focus is on Moses and Aaron and not Miriam. Dealing with only parts of Miriam’s life when joined to Moses, Aaron when coming out of Egypt.
If you walk humbly and obediantly as a child listening to and being respectful,and in awe of him, and his safety rules,and watching out for others while life can have hardships life can be better.Sacrifics were usually needed after a person ran head long into trouble because they were not listening,being prideful,willful.Which is better, to have a child listen to you when you say:wear your shoes and don’t walk in that area where there is glass or metal or to have to make a trip to an ER with a child that is in pain and crying and to have the child’s foot sewn up because they did not listen?
The Father tells us to over throw their alters….because we have not he has sent those that are not following Torah …Deuteronomy 12:2
It’s best if you read through the commands for yourself, some are for men, some for women, some for children some for Kings and priests. If it envolves the Holy Temple; or the land of Israel then we most likely cannot do at this time. We are all responsible for what is in the book; as best we can. Usually one at a time, we start with Sabbath, you can ask Yeshua what elsse and always ask for wisdom and understanding, it’s mostly about your character, moral and ethical.
It’s above my ‘paygrade’ to tear down someone else’s altar in their own backyard. I have my own yard to deal with, including possible stuff in my own eyes.
Do you have a teaching on what commandments are pertinent for today..
That’s what I been telling other, it how you treat on another, the poor , orphans, widows, even spiritual widows. etc.
You’ve presented “Food 4 Thought”; i.e. “spiritual widows”
wow wonderful teaching. I asked a while ago about what my Father would like me to do? The answer is here Deuteronomy 10:12 Thank you guys I learned so much!
Summary of today’s Prophet Pearls in Mic 6:8 (one of my fav verses too!)
1. Hebrew is never passive, what we know has to be applied in our lives.
2. To serve YHWH, is to walk in awe of Him, to keep His commandments and statutes, (Deut 10: 12)
To obey is better than sacrifice. 1 Sam 15: 22
Beautiful! Toda, Nehemia and Keith.
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How old was Pinchus; when he died?
I love the simplicity of Micah 6:8. This is where Torah living starts. This is repentance. Having more understanding of the finer details of what is written in the Torah is a daily progressive walk The Torah is not too difficult, but it is near, even in our mouths and on our lips (Deuteronomy 30:14). Someone once said, “My yoke is easy, and my burden is light,” which happened to be the Torah when reading this in its context (Matthew 11:30).
Some tell me that they cannot accept Torah because they cannot live their life according to a book. I tell them that I must accept Torah because I cannot live my life according to others’ opinions. Indeed, the Torah is the most liberating piece of work ever written.
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“That which is hateful to you, do not do to another.” “That is the whole Law.” “The rest is commentary.” “Now go and learn.”
I just want to thank you Nehemia for your insights. I have cerbral palsy and it is a blessing to dig into the word; with your help.
It was Hillel and it is part of a story about the difference between Hillel and Shammai. The man came first to Shammai to learn the Torah standing on one foot, and Shammai thought the man was mocking him and threw him out. So the man came to Hillel, who taught him “What is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbor. The rest is commentary; now, go and study it.”