Prophet Pearls #49 – Ki Teitzei (Isaiah 54:1-54:10)

In this episode of Prophet Pearls, Nehemia Gordon and Keith Johnson discuss the Prophets portion for Ki Teitzei covering Isaiah 54:1-54:10. Gordon and Johnson revel in the glorious promises to Israel, explore the various ways the Tanakh allegorizes her, and stand firmly on common ground concerning the messianic promise as Yehovah connects his eternal covenant with Israel to the seed of David.

This week's Prophet Pearls, is a rebroadcast of Prophet Pearls Noach (Isaiah 54:1-55:5), which is more or less the same prophet portion.

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17 thoughts on “Prophet Pearls #49 – Ki Teitzei (Isaiah 54:1-54:10)

  1. I don’t know exactly what the answer is, but I am having a problem with Nehemia’s explanation of those who were allowed those who were restricted from entering the congregation.

    1. He says the reason why Ruth was allowed to enter the congregation was that she actually, became an Israelite.

    1.1 If Ruth could take a vow, and become an Israelite immediately, why could other Ammonites and Moabites NOT become an Israelite also?

    1.2 Why would the Edomite and Egyptian need to wait until the third generation. Why could they not enter the congregation by taking a vow also?

    1.3 Saying that it had something to do with their pagan gods, would bring up the question, “Would the Edomite and Egyptian be able to enter the congregation after the third generation, even if they continued to worship their pagan gods?”

    • No, they would not be able to continue in the worship of other gods. In Deuteronomy we are told that if a servant or sojourner wishes to become A part of Israel they must make a conscious decision to follow in the ways and instructions of YHVH His Torah , YHVH has house rules and if you want to be in his home you have to live by them … this is not a part time gig , it’s a life long decision…. AKA a covenant with the most high . What makes an Israelite according to YHVH is anyone who obeys him and walks in his commandments and instructions .

      • So are you saying that the prohibition concerning the Moabite and the Amonite not entering into the congregation for 10 generations was essentially no different than the allowing of the Egyptian and the Edomite entering the congregation after only 3 generations? All they had to do was stop being idolaters?

      • Sorry, hit enter too quickly, to continue my thought, given that Ruth entered the congregation in her 1st generation it seems that this restriction of generations is a moot point, and doesn’t really apply then.

    • Nothing stops anyone at any time from asking Yahovah for forgiveness and real actual repentance with the sign of that repentance bringing forth the fruit to prove it.
      Can’t fool Dad
      When Ruth said your God shall be my God
      She became An isrealite like any other human can.

      • Seems to me that there would be a difference between forgiveness and entering into the congregation.

        If as you say forgiveness can be done at any time would and allowed them to enter the congregation at that point, then the restriction as to when they can enter the congregation is a moot point that doesn’t really apply.

        If the restrictions as to how long it took for someone to be allowed into the congregation of Israel has only to do with repentance, then were Moabites and Amonites that had NOT sought forgiveness allowed to live in Israel while plying their idolatry?

        • Great point , I actually wonder if the duration of time was in order to having created a life style living according to God’s law , a time of putting into practice and learning while sifting out what remained of the world and paganism…. rather then allow them a place immediately to ignorantly sin against YHVH leading to the possible destruction of a person. Old habits die hard I see it as great mercy. perhaps it was a time of generational purification it sounds as if the concern was what came into the temple rather then if they identified as part of Israel . In the end it’s all speculation but it would seem to be the pattern .. and it also seemed as though some tribes or peoples had shorter durations while other cultures had longer .. same thing seems to happen to the Israelites when they turn away from YHVH . A set time is given for separation. Even with the destruction of the temples it seems it was done with a purpose and a duration of time before rebuildings .

          • I’m not sure of the answer, but I have a couple of thoughts.

            1. Just because a person could not enter the congregation did not mean they were outside YHVH’s care.

            A person that had tza’arat could not enter the congregation, but that was not necessarily indicate an automatic rejection by YHVH.

            A person that had come in the contact with a dead body had to remain outside the camp, but that was not a sin, and they could enter after they had been purified with the water of purification.

            2. Though Moabites and Ammonites could not enter the congregation, it did not mean that YHVH was not working among them, Ruth being the proof of that.

  2. Paul of Tarsus is the one that derived the remarriage doctrine based on Deut 24:1-4 and Yeshua as the (original) husband.

    “Is the Redeemer of Israel:
    A. God (Isa 49:7)
    B. A Messenger (Gen 48:16)
    C. A Man (Gen 32:24)
    D. All of the above?”

      • Ehhh, I think us Jews did that long ago and with the reinstatement on the Sanhedrin… it looks like we are prepping to do that again, Hahahaha. I think as Jews we have added to the words of the Holy one and taken away from the words of the Holy one with mans traditions and the oral laws and in doing that, other religions have followed suit. It seems to me we reap what we sow. If we want and undefined temple then it’s time to stop defiling ourselves . Then and probably only then will we reap undifilmemt we can apply to a temple . If we do not do this, we just gonna end up with another destroyed temple . Let’s be an example and do what YHVH says and do it in the way he tells us how to do it, with the proper heart. Then it says he will keep us and return us to our land and no longer will we be plagued with evil or evil nations. In my opinion, as long as we keep seeing defilement, we are not living the way the Holy one wants. It’s on us not the gentiles, we are to be the example unto the world, when and not the example to the nations, we become made an example of by nations through the most high.

        • The doctrine being implied by Stu Lowndes is nothing more than spiritual syncretism. Modern Christianity and ancient Israel are guilty of the same abomination.

          There was a time when many of the Israelites believed that Baal and Yehovah were one in the same. The Roman Church has espoused the same doctrine by saying Yeshuah is Yehovah (the incarnation) and regrettably many Christians have blindly embraced this false doctrine thus defiling the name of Yehovah and by extension defiling the place where He causes His name to dwell forever.


  3. I appreciate the idea of allegory, but why would God use an allegory that depicts Himself violating His own Torah?

  4. Would the following be a picture for the compassion our Father has for us?
    It is as though we are in His womb. He convieved us and He has carried His people through the turmoil, and upheavles of of pregnancy for thousands of years.
    The birthing (birthpains of Messiah) will happen at the begining of the Messianic Kingdom when Israel, My son, or bride as the case may be, comes forth to live in a restored Eden (original design). Or at the end of the ages when the Olam Haba arrives? Does this fit into the terminology throughout the Scriptures?
    Thanks so much for all you do.

  5. Thank you for your good work. I do hope you and Keith can someday read and give your thoughts on Hebrew Matthew.. May you always be blessed. May we all know the love and salvation of Yeshua. Halleluyah!!!

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